9th Sept 2009 at 2:26 pm
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Quote: Albi The Racist Dragon, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Michael Shields has been pardoned, which just shows that our justice system is a f*cking joke.
Something tells me that if it was a Man Utd fan convicted on the same flimsy evidence despite numerous witness statements putting him elsewhere, you'd feel differently.
Wind your neck in gobsh*te, I've had mates inside in Rome that were genuinely innocent and didn't have people lying at every opportunity to get them out. You didn't see appeals on TV's decrying the Italian justice system for being crooked, or our club getting involved did you?
9th Sept 2009 at 2:29 pm
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9th Sept 2009 at 2:39 pm
River Phoenix
F*cking hell Sarah.
What a complete, total and utter douche!
9th Sept 2009 at 3:10 pm
9th Sept 2009 at 4:42 pm
Certainly before now I've tried to get him to stop doing something and there was no getting through to him until afterwards, but I wouldn't go to the police over that
9th Sept 2009 at 5:34 pm
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Quote: Howard Hughes, Sept 2009Glad you told him to GTFO Sarah. It's the third time now, if I recall correctly? You don't get accused on 3 separate occasions by 3 [presumably] unconnected women by being innocent.
It's the third time in a year, but I think it's been more than that. I don't see how he Could have done something that many times and never been in court over it though.
I mean, I know with him it would be hard to call because every time it's been a case where someone gave their consent and then changed their mind. How can you prove that either way? Certainly before now I've tried to get him to stop doing something and there was no getting through to him until afterwards, but I wouldn't go to the police over that
9th Sept 2009 at 6:19 pm
Quote: The Underwhelmed One, Sept 2009Quote: Howard Hughes, Sept 2009Glad you told him to GTFO Sarah. It's the third time now, if I recall correctly? You don't get accused on 3 separate occasions by 3 [presumably] unconnected women by being innocent.
It's the third time in a year, but I think it's been more than that. I don't see how he Could have done something that many times and never been in court over it though.
I mean, I know with him it would be hard to call because every time it's been a case where someone gave their consent and then changed their mind. How can you prove that either way? Certainly before now I've tried to get him to stop doing something and there was no getting through to him until afterwards, but I wouldn't go to the police over that
The procedure in order to get a rape case to trial is borderline humiliation for the victim. I'm not 100% on the ins and outs though - Joel will probably be able to give more accurate information as I think he studied quite a few rape cases for his degree.
And that last paragraph is a grim read. I actually pulled this face as I got to the end =/
9th Sept 2009 at 6:47 pm
River Phoenix
Quote:And that last paragraph is a grim read. I actually pulled this face as I got to the end =/
Me too. What a c*nt.
9th Sept 2009 at 7:01 pm
Outside-left
Quote: Howard Hughes, Sept 2009Quote: The Underwhelmed One, Sept 2009Quote: Howard Hughes, Sept 2009Glad you told him to GTFO Sarah. It's the third time now, if I recall correctly? You don't get accused on 3 separate occasions by 3 [presumably] unconnected women by being innocent.
It's the third time in a year, but I think it's been more than that. I don't see how he Could have done something that many times and never been in court over it though.
I mean, I know with him it would be hard to call because every time it's been a case where someone gave their consent and then changed their mind. How can you prove that either way? Certainly before now I've tried to get him to stop doing something and there was no getting through to him until afterwards, but I wouldn't go to the police over that
The procedure in order to get a rape case to trial is borderline humiliation for the victim. I'm not 100% on the ins and outs though - Joel will probably be able to give more accurate information as I think he studied quite a few rape cases for his degree.
And that last paragraph is a grim read. I actually pulled this face as I got to the end =/
Yeah, I did a mini-dissertation on the subject. The procedure for prosecuting rape is f*cked up and in desperate need of reform. Aquaintance rapes in particular are particularly hard to prove unless there are some signs of physical injury. You need a very strong victim to be able to put up with it all, which is why only 5% of reported cases end in prosecution. Ideally the victim should be exempt from cross-examination in court, which was proposed a while back but I don't think it's made any impact. Hearing a defence barrister cross-examine a rape victim is one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever heard, they will dredge up sexual history and stuff, while you can't refer to previous incidents of violence against women (for example) with regards to the defendant.
And yes, it still disgusts me that people who I KNOW are strong women put up with violence, especially sexual violence, in a relationship. Rape is rape, regardless of circumstance.
9th Sept 2009 at 7:24 pm
Outside-left
It's a really grey area, innit, that's why it's so hard to prosecute. I think the law really does need to be looked at though cos there doesn't seem to be much to help out the victims. On the flipside though you could really f*ck up a bloke's life with a false accusation, even if he ends up being found not guilty.
It's a proper ugly scene.
9th Sept 2009 at 7:30 pm
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Quote: Howard Hughes, Sept 2009Quote: the doc, Sept 2009It's a really grey area, innit, that's why it's so hard to prosecute. I think the law really does need to be looked at though cos there doesn't seem to be much to help out the victims. On the flipside though you could really f*ck up a bloke's life with a false accusation, even if he ends up being found not guilty.
It's a proper ugly scene.
That was something I was thinking about the other day when doing some loosely related reading. Even if taken to court and found not guilty (because he is, rather than because of a harsh barrister), his life is over. I can't think of another crime that has this effect, with the exception of terrorism.
child p*rn?
9th Sept 2009 at 11:04 pm
Yeah, I did a mini-dissertation on the subject. The procedure for prosecuting rape is f*cked up and in desperate need of reform. Aquaintance rapes in particular are particularly hard to prove unless there are some signs of physical injury. You need a very strong victim to be able to put up with it all, which is why only 5% of reported cases end in prosecution. Ideally the victim should be exempt from cross-examination in court, which was proposed a while back but I don't think it's made any impact. Hearing a defence barrister cross-examine a rape victim is one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever heard, they will dredge up sexual history and stuff, while you can't refer to previous incidents of violence against women (for example) with regards to the defendant.
And yes, it still disgusts me that people who I KNOW are strong women put up with violence, especially sexual violence, in a relationship. Rape is rape, regardless of circumstance.
10th Sept 2009 at 1:09 am
10th Sept 2009 at 4:07 am
River Phoenix
10th Sept 2009 at 11:05 am
River Phoenix
should i feel like a horrible person for smiling at the fact my boyfriends ex (who lives in Colorado) is going insane cause he has a girlfriend and its taken her 6 months to discover it.............
10th Sept 2009 at 12:23 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: -Debs-, Sept 2009should i feel like a horrible person for smiling at the fact my boyfriends ex (who lives in Colorado) is going insane cause he has a girlfriend and its taken her 6 months to discover it.............
The fact that you're asking about being horrible, proves that you aren't. People who really are horrible don't care about being horrible.
I'm a right horrrible b*st*rd then.
10th Sept 2009 at 2:10 pm
I aim to misbehave
Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
You laughed so hard you BROKE A F*CKING RIB!
10th Sept 2009 at 2:23 pm
River Phoenix
Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
10th Sept 2009 at 4:47 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
10th Sept 2009 at 4:56 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
Yeah you are funny, even though you're a JERK who has strange ideas about people from Wigan.
All you Wiganers love pies, thats a FACT. Whether I'm a JERK or not.
10th Sept 2009 at 5:10 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
Yeah you are funny, even though you're a JERK who has strange ideas about people from Wigan.
All you Wiganers love pies, thats a FACT. Whether I'm a JERK or not.
True, mofo. i've never had a chip pie or a pie pie, though.
I'm beginning to think they're urban myths
10th Sept 2009 at 5:16 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
Yeah you are funny, even though you're a JERK who has strange ideas about people from Wigan.
All you Wiganers love pies, thats a FACT. Whether I'm a JERK or not.
True, mofo. i've never had a chip pie or a pie pie, though.
I'm beginning to think they're urban myths
Aw; sorry, Phil. i did used to eat Uncle Joe's mint balls when i was little, though; i s'pose that's kind of a Wigany thing to eat.
Were they in a pie?
10th Sept 2009 at 5:25 pm
River Phoenix
Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009I dunno, the part of me tht hails from that place is tempted by this.. Pie and Uncle Joes? How could it go wrong?Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
Yeah you are funny, even though you're a JERK who has strange ideas about people from Wigan.
All you Wiganers love pies, thats a FACT. Whether I'm a JERK or not.
True, mofo. i've never had a chip pie or a pie pie, though.
I'm beginning to think they're urban myths
Aw; sorry, Phil. i did used to eat Uncle Joe's mint balls when i was little, though; i s'pose that's kind of a Wigany thing to eat.
Were they in a pie?
No, that'd be a misuse of pie or summat.
10th Sept 2009 at 5:38 pm
Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009I dunno, the part of me tht hails from that place is tempted by this.. Pie and Uncle Joes? How could it go wrong?Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Tuco, Sept 2009Quote: Rayanne Graff, Sept 2009Quote: Das Buroski, Sept 2009Or do anything regardless of the appropriateness..
I'm still scarred from the mock teabagging incident.
Huh, Veg Rev is full of lovely mental images.
It was stone cold, gold comedy sh*t. You'd love me, I'm a funny guy.
Yeah you are funny, even though you're a JERK who has strange ideas about people from Wigan.
All you Wiganers love pies, thats a FACT. Whether I'm a JERK or not.
True, mofo. i've never had a chip pie or a pie pie, though.
I'm beginning to think they're urban myths
Aw; sorry, Phil. i did used to eat Uncle Joe's mint balls when i was little, though; i s'pose that's kind of a Wigany thing to eat.
Were they in a pie?
No, that'd be a misuse of pie or summat.
It doesn't sound at all right. But maybe it's so wrong that it's right.
11th Sept 2009 at 3:11 am
11th Sept 2009 at 9:59 am
11th Sept 2009 at 1:20 pm
I aim to misbehave
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