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Dr Namgge

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 12:27 am

I honestly don't give two sh*ts about what people say in terms of whether it's technically correct or not. "Bath" is no more correct/incorrect than "barth", "laughs" can be said to rhyme with a*se or it can be said the other way. I also don't care if you say "cannot" "can't" or "cannae".

In complete honest I think anyone whose that anally retentive about the way in which words are said needs shooting. If the people who held these values so dearly had been around in the past, then we'd all be speaking in the same way Shakepeare wrote to this day.

Languages are constantly evolving, and things like "Led Zepplin is touring" is just how it evolves. You may not like how it evolves, but that's how it goes. It may not be grammatically correct today, but then saying "Led Zepplin are touring" in the sixteen hundreds would be bad grammar (don't quote me, but I'd guess "It appears that the band, 'Led Zepplin', are to be touring the country" would be most approppriate for the sixteen hundreds).

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Colin

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 9:00 am

I'm really not fond of 'remote' (instead of remote control, which I'm not so keen on anyway - if it were 'controller' I'd be okay) and 'mobile' (instead of mobile 'phone), even despite the fact the former is accepted by the dictionary. Whoever decided on these abbreviations took the wrong word, and now it seems like an adjective used as a noun.
However, I accept that this is just my crazier side speaking, so I do my best to just sit and bear it, and hope nobody notices the correction I whisper to myself.

Fact: When writing this post, the The Clash song Remote Control came on at random.

Here's a recent one:
Picture the following on a timeline.
"That's a good song"
"That's a good tune"
"That's a tune"
"TUNE!"

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Insane Jam Sow

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 10:07 am

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Yes, a lot of this thread is just things that annoy people; they're not 'wrong' at all, just usages that can bother some.

The real venom should be reserved only for those that ARE wrong: so far this includes things like "could of" when written, "asterix" when not referring to the Gaul, and "brought / bought" being confused.

None of these can be justified as an accent / dialect / idiolect thing - they're just errors that people keep making because they know no better.

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Rayanne Graff

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 10:09 am

River Phoenix

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It's an Americanism really, but it's started creeping in over here somewhat, to my eternal chagrin: when people say/write this band is touring or whatever e.g. Led Zeppelin is one of the most overrated rock bands in the history of the known universe........" Gragh, gragh and thrice gragh, it's enough to give me f*cking apoplexy!

(It's been going on for longer than people might think; i remember that Bros sometimes used the phrase "Bros is the boogie".)

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 1:14 pm

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When people pronounce things with an 'a' in as 'ar' (the only one I can think of that's alright is 'carn't', and I'm not so sure I'm keen on that) - grarss, darnce, parth.

you're annoyed by correct pronounciation?

It's only correct up against a wall.

You mean "Warl"? Right?

Naw, I mean "wa'".

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Colin

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 1:27 pm

Quote: Insane_Jam_Sow

Yes, a lot of this thread is just things that annoy people; they're not 'wrong' at all, just usages that can bother some.

The real venom should be reserved only for those that ARE wrong: so far this includes things like "could of" when written, "asterix" when not referring to the Gaul, and "brought / bought" being confused.

Good point, Jammy.

Still, a lot of slang accepted by the dictionary p*sses me off because I tend to interpret things literally (oh great, that word again), so if someone tells me of a 'bird' it takes me a while to understand if it's not a winged, beaked creature.

One amusing one was "There'll be bare heads at this gig!", which apparently means "a lot of people", and not "bald people".

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Silvan

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2^nd Feb 2008 at 2:38 pm

Aurals Velupide!

People pronouncing 'lattice' as 'lar-tey/lat-tey'.

What can I say? I did it all for the Wookies.

learrggh

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3^rd Feb 2008 at 2:16 am

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I think when people use "literally" too much as well i.e. "I literally couldn't stop laughing"... So you're still doing it now or did you need to have your vocal chords removed?

That actually p*sses me off a fair bit.

Seconded.

Yep.
As for the metaphor one; I generally don't use metaphors because I don't like lying and am pedantic in my communication to an almost Asperger's standard (For example, I can't say "That's the straw that broke the camel's back" unless there's a camel and a straw involved). As a jokey substitute, I use this whole "proverbial" thing but leave out the nouns just to complicate things - "That's the proverbial that broke the proverbial's proverbial".
I only do this in jest, but The Doc's post has enlightened me that it's actually 'metaphorical' - I never thought about it before - and I'll have to adapt. Annoying, as it's a more difficult word to say.
Ain't that a metaphorical in the metaphorical?

You d*ck.

As for rest of posts, tl,dr.

Colin

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4^th Feb 2008 at 4:49 pm

Crazies around here say "buz" instead of "bus".

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Colin

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7^th Feb 2008 at 6:39 pm

"Are you shu-er?"

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Chris Kamara

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7^th Feb 2008 at 6:49 pm

Am instead of I'm. Mildly annoying.

"Am going to the shop".

Rainbow

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7^th Feb 2008 at 10:28 pm

Is the avatar upload thing broken?

Argh:

Shoot instead of suit.
Thee-etter instead of theatre.

Topper

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7^th Feb 2008 at 10:41 pm

Dismantling a person is sometimes necessary...

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Crazies around here say "buz" instead of "bus".

:-[

I hope some day, for some reason, David Duchovny is investigated by the FBI. Because that would make a great story.

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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7^th Feb 2008 at 11:04 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

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People saying "I seen him" when what they actually mean is "I f*cked him" . You seen him do what?

F*ck them.

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klinsmann18

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7^th Feb 2008 at 11:31 pm

Matt.

One that annoys me, and it shouldn't, is the pronunciation of the word 'squirrel'. I don't actually think anyone says it incorrectly, but in certain accents it seems to come across as 'Screwels', which annoys me secretly.

Another one that really gets me is 'ask' being pronounced 'axe/aks' GRRRRRRRR!!!

Also......NUCULAR weapons were never found in Iraq for a reason. They don't f*cking exist.

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Rayanne Graff

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8^th Feb 2008 at 10:50 am

River Phoenix

(i don't understand it, and i'm glad that i don't.)

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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8^th Feb 2008 at 2:00 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

The guy's bullsh*tting, and he knows he's bullsh*tting. He seems to be talking about the need not to take small-scale obstacles ("micro-environmentals") to efficiency too seriously, because people will get around them and things change so quickly in an era of globalisation anyway. At least that's the second half of it.

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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8^th Feb 2008 at 2:08 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

The "pollination symbiosis" bit, as well, is the guy taking the analogy of the organisation of bees pollinating flowers to his ideal of innovative efficiency, since bees are able to pollinate flowers in a way that is very fragmented and loose in terms of what bees are pollinating which flowers, but having a massive effect despite that fragmentation.

I dunno why he can't just say that (actually, I do, because it's bullsh*t), but there y'go.

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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8^th Feb 2008 at 2:43 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

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Being able to understand that amount of BS squeezed into a sentance shouldn't be possible.

You forget I have academic pretentions. Plus those bits come from different parts of the paper, so they're out of context, although that only slightly increases their legibility.

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Colin

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8^th Feb 2008 at 6:33 pm

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so if someone tells me of a 'bird' it takes me a while to understand if it's not a winged, beaked creature.

If you mean that as an expression for a girlfriend I'm with you all the way. Does my f*cking crust in, that one, especially when girls use it. Have some self-respect!

Yep.

On an earlier point of mine, I heard someone say "I've got go work" today. It's normal practice around here but I hate it.

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Dr Namgge

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9^th Feb 2008 at 12:03 pm

Reading this thread merely makes me think Colin's head would explode if he had to listen to more than five minutes of cockney rhyming slang.

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Colin

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9^th Feb 2008 at 1:19 pm

Northern is silly

And yes, Cockney Rhyming Slang will be the death of me.

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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9^th Feb 2008 at 9:00 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

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Peter Kay last night: "it were weird, Bullseye, 'cause it were sh*t but it were good"

Those unfortunate Northern ruffians.

Tongs, ya bass.

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Rayanne Graff

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16^th Feb 2008 at 9:32 am

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