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John Cage Bubblegum

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29^th Jan 2008 at 11:43 am

Quote: LassieTheEvilOne

I think when people use "literally" too much as well i.e. "I literally couldn't stop laughing"... So you're still doing it now or did you need to have your vocal chords removed?

That actually p*sses me off a fair bit.

Seconded.

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Colin

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29^th Jan 2008 at 11:55 am

Quote: samurai_hedgehog

Quote: LassieTheEvilOne
I think when people use "literally" too much as well i.e. "I literally couldn't stop laughing"... So you're still doing it now or did you need to have your vocal chords removed?

That actually p*sses me off a fair bit.

Seconded.

Yep.
As for the metaphor one; I generally don't use metaphors because I don't like lying and am pedantic in my communication to an almost Asperger's standard (For example, I can't say "That's the straw that broke the camel's back" unless there's a camel and a straw involved). As a jokey substitute, I use this whole "proverbial" thing but leave out the nouns just to complicate things - "That's the proverbial that broke the proverbial's proverbial".
I only do this in jest, but The Doc's post has enlightened me that it's actually 'metaphorical' - I never thought about it before - and I'll have to adapt. Annoying, as it's a more difficult word to say.
Ain't that a metaphorical in the metaphorical?

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wombat

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29^th Jan 2008 at 11:56 am

Technically sexy.

Quote: samurai_hedgehog

Quote: LassieTheEvilOne
I think when people use "literally" too much as well i.e. "I literally couldn't stop laughing"... So you're still doing it now or did you need to have your vocal chords removed?

That actually p*sses me off a fair bit.

Seconded.

argh, I know!

They couldn't get the use of the word more wrong- I mean, thats the EXACT opposite of how its supposed to be used.

Southern hemispherical rat boy

Colin

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29^th Jan 2008 at 12:06 pm

'Practically' is a technically correct substitute for the misused 'literally' but I don't like to use it because it's a contradiction of the word's primary definition.

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Tobias Fünke

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29^th Jan 2008 at 12:41 pm

I blue myself.

Quote: The_Educatedwombat

Quote: samurai_hedgehog
Quote: LassieTheEvilOne
I think when people use "literally" too much as well i.e. "I literally couldn't stop laughing"... So you're still doing it now or did you need to have your vocal chords removed?

That actually p*sses me off a fair bit.

Seconded.

argh, I know!

They couldn't get the use of the word more wrong- I mean, thats the EXACT opposite of how its supposed to be used.

Private Eye used to have a literally section in their colemanballs books. Football commentators were fond of using it...'he's literally got Lineker in his back pocket'

Analrapist.

Tobias Fünke

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29^th Jan 2008 at 12:43 pm

I blue myself.

Overuse of 'basically', 'at the end of the day' and 'you know what I mean?' at the end of every sentence. That's annoying.

Analrapist.

Chris Kamara

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29^th Jan 2008 at 12:59 pm

Quote: Look_Dad_No_Tunes

Overuse of 'basically', 'at the end of the day' and 'you know what I mean?' at the end of every sentence. That's annoying.

Literally, every single footballer does that in an interview. Proverbially speaking, it's quite stupid.

Colin

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29^th Jan 2008 at 4:52 pm

"I did (something), I did"

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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29^th Jan 2008 at 5:00 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

Anyone who uses "like" as almost continual punctuation for their useless, masturbatory witterings about the enduring purgatory that is their life must be shot at dawn.

Filled with existential dread and toast.

John Cage Bubblegum

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29^th Jan 2008 at 5:09 pm

Quote: the_doc

"And do you know what he turned round and said to me...............?"

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Oh yes, I'd forgotten about this. Unless they're actually describing how the particular event happened, the 'turned round' bit shouldn't even come into it. I don't know how it's become so widespread.

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Tobias Fünke

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29^th Jan 2008 at 5:14 pm

I blue myself.

The 'hilarious' Hale and Pace once did a gag about the 'turned around and said' thing and it was actually quite funny. What are the chances, eh?

Analrapist.

Colin

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29^th Jan 2008 at 5:18 pm

The horrible, horrible local one is omitting 'to'.
"I'm just goin' down Hanley"
"I'm trying 'elp you 'ere"
"You need go the library"

Annoyingly, no examples I give can be as bad as real life.

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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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29^th Jan 2008 at 6:16 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

Quote: Lilac_Leopard

Do split infinitives bother you, as an aside? They don't bother me but I feel like they should.

Only pearl-clutching 19th century linguists ever got bothered by a split infinitive.

Filled with existential dread and toast.

Tobias Fünke

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29^th Jan 2008 at 6:19 pm

I blue myself.

"I am soooo getting that."

So getting punched, that is.

Analrapist.

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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29^th Jan 2008 at 6:25 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

Quote: Lilac_Leopard

Quote: fsc
Quote: Lilac_Leopard
Do split infinitives bother you, as an aside? They don't bother me but I feel like they should.

Only pearl-clutching 19th century linguists ever got bothered by a split infinitive.

And half my English class. f*cking weirdos.

How bothered are we talking about here?

Filled with existential dread and toast.

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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29^th Jan 2008 at 6:35 pm

apparently the big pink bastard is me

Quote: Lilac_Leopard

Entire presentation. With Youtubing of the "To boldly go" bit of the Star Trek intro and "OMGZ LETS PUT IT IN ROOM 101"-age. Seriously.

Why? What's annoying about a split infinitive? Do they not recognise its' applicability in poetry?

Filled with existential dread and toast.

TinyShine

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29^th Jan 2008 at 8:28 pm

I don't really get it when people get annoyed by little colloquialisms and quirks.

So long as someone isn't using REALLY bad grammar it doesn't bother me, in which case they come into me for speech therapy...! l The majority of children I see in the clinic say things like, "Her catched two mouses" when they are 8 years old!

Sarah xx

YaDunKnow

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30^th Jan 2008 at 1:00 am

VR kicks ass!

Being from the Midlands, I don't find "he/she turned round" so annoying, it's just local vernacular. Also, "like" in a Midlands sense (ie. for emphasis, eg. "he's sound like" or "it was a good game like") doesn't bother me but I have a massive problem with "like - totally" and "so, anyway, I was like - no way".

However, one thing that really does vex me is the usage of the word "yourself" or "yourselves" instead of "you" in formal situations. (eg. "Is it yourself that's doing it?", "That's for yourself", etc) which seems to be prevalent across the West Midlands. I don't know if it's a throwback to some older dialect but I hear it all the time in meetings etc and people do seem to think that it makes you sound more intelligent or something. Any other Midlanders noticed this?

Rayanne Graff

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30^th Jan 2008 at 9:28 am

River Phoenix

(i hate it when people say "you know". If i know, why are you telling me?)

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Colin

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30^th Jan 2008 at 9:31 am

Quote: TinyShine

come into me for speech therapy

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John Cage Bubblegum

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30^th Jan 2008 at 9:40 am

People who say 'brought' when they mean 'bought' should be shot. I used to live with someone who did this and it drove me up the wall.

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Topper

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30^th Jan 2008 at 9:44 am

Dismantling a person is sometimes necessary...

One thing that gets me is how football pundits, footballers and managers all seem to say, for example "he done well" instead of "he did well". I'm pretty sure it's not a dialetcal thing, simply stupidity and bad grammar.

I hope some day, for some reason, David Duchovny is investigated by the FBI. Because that would make a great story.

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Colin

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31^st Jan 2008 at 7:11 am

Quote: samurai_hedgehog

People who say 'brought' when they mean 'bought' should be shot. I used to live with someone who did this and it drove me up the wall.

I think you mean the opposite - if so, that happens around here. Horrible. Worse than famine, AIDS and adult-oriented rock.

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Colin

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31^st Jan 2008 at 7:12 am

Quote: girlpants

Little incorrect things, that change meanings. Take over, rather than over take, for example.

I spend hours trying to point out that they are essentially saying we should take control of someone else's car when they say this, rather than drive past them..

But are they road pirates?

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Rayanne Graff

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31^st Jan 2008 at 9:44 am

River Phoenix

(i think "It's not rocket science" is a daft expression.)

John Cage Bubblegum

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31^st Jan 2008 at 9:54 am

Quote: thelostdude

I think you mean the opposite - if so, that happens around here. Horrible. Worse than famine, AIDS and adult-oriented rock.

No, I lived with a Stokie who said 'brought' when she meant to say 'bought'. It was beyond irritating.

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Rayanne Graff

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31^st Jan 2008 at 10:07 am

River Phoenix

(It bugs me when people don't know the difference between borrowing and lending.)

Colin

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31^st Jan 2008 at 10:42 am

Quote: samurai_hedgehog

Quote: thelostdude
I think you mean the opposite - if so, that happens around here. Horrible. Worse than famine, AIDS and adult-oriented rock.

No, I lived with a Stokie who said 'brought' when she meant to say 'bought'. It was beyond irritating.

Wow. Either she's an anomaly or everyone who's said it to me (in Stoke and surrounding areas) is an anomaly - I'm pretty sure the one I hear is 'bought' being used as a past tense of 'bring'.

Stoke is also terrible in how a lot of people pronounce the vowel 'i' as 'ee', which sounds horrible, high-pitched and piercing. Having my name can be very annoying around here.

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(It bugs me when people don't know the difference between borrowing and lending.)

Agh. Yes.

There are probably loads which I could add to this list; I'll just have to wait until I notice them.

And which of us are one of the b*st*rds who correct such things? I do, but I usually try to keep it only as a muttering to myself, because I can't feel comfortable until I have done.

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Chris Kamara

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31^st Jan 2008 at 10:47 am

Same as Tom for me; people say brought instead of bought. It is annoying, but generally once people are told they're using the wrong word, they cut it out.

Chris Kamara

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31^st Jan 2008 at 10:57 am

Haha, I can well believe it, especially Ethernet. One bloke I talked to on the phone once referred to a Modem as 'Moddum'. I didn't know what he was on about for a while.

Colin

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31^st Jan 2008 at 10:58 am

Quote: girlpants

Quote: thelostdude
Quote: samurai_hedgehog
Quote: thelostdude
I think you mean the opposite - if so, that happens around here. Horrible. Worse than famine, AIDS and adult-oriented rock.

No, I lived with a Stokie who said 'brought' when she meant to say 'bought'. It was beyond irritating.

Wow. Either she's an anomaly or everyone who's said it to me (in Stoke and surrounding areas) is an anomaly - I'm pretty sure the one I hear is 'bought' being used as a past tense of 'bring'.

Stoke is also terrible in how a lot of people pronounce the vowel 'i' as 'ee', which sounds horrible, high-pitched and piercing. Having my name can be very annoying around here.

The stoke accent and pronunciations of things bug the crap out of me. As does their insistence on the use of the word Duck!

Oh, don't get me started. I'm getting out of this pond as soon as possible...

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