September the 10th

(Yet another controversial rant from Satan's Rubber Duck. No offence is intended.)

Today is September the 10th.

On this day exactly one year ago, thousands of people died. Some died of old age, as old people are wont to do. Others were hurt in attacks, in which they were innocent bystanders. Others OD'd, or jumped, or hanged themselves, basically they committed suicide. More died from of natural causes, like heart attacks or cancer. Some died because of industrial accidents. Most deaths weren't intentional. The friends and family of all the people who died on this day, exactly one year ago, were hurt by their mother's/father's/friend's/uncle's/aunt's/brother's/sister's/etc death.

LET'S GO TO WAR AND MAKE HUNDREDS OF F**CKING TV DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT IT ONE YEAR LATER!

OK, I'll explain. People died on September 11th last year, can't be denied. Innocent people, most of them. Even the pilots in the planes - not the highly-qualified, richly-paid ones; the 'terrorist' ones - were innocent, in a way. They were fighting for what they believed. OK, it hurt thousands, millions if you include the families and friends of the victims. But it made a point. Writing a strongly worded letter to George W Bush (I'm assuming you all know how I feel about him) wouldn't have got the Taliban anywhere. I'm not condoning what happened, not in any way. But America, no, wait, George W Bush, retaliated. His 'smart' bombs weren't very smart at all. Too many of them missed, hitting innocent villagers. Even if they did support the Taliban and their ideals, well, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Providing that was all they did - have an opinion - and not actually *do* anything, they are innocent. And, as much as I dislike George W Bush and all he does, I am not trying to put the blame purely on him. Many of his advisers and cronies are as corrupt as he is. What I am trying to do, is take the blame away from the USA in general. "Hey, that guy lives in America! He must hate the Taliban!!" C'mon! That's like saying everyone in Scotland wears kilts, everyone is England is posh and snooty, and everyone in Wales does rude things with sheep (sorry, Wales, you got the short straw).

But, back to the point. Innocent people died in the Twin Towers, true. People in the Pentagon and the other flights too. But many innocent people died in the Middle East too. Let's remember them too. Let's remember that they have probably had worse lives than most of the people in America who died that day. Let's remember that they have probably done less to damage the environment than America too. Let's remember that they have worse living conditions than most 'first world' homeless people (and I mean the real homeless people, not the 'professional' ones).

Now, I'm not trying to be insulting. Or bad-mouth any of the victims of the attacks on either side of the world. But what I have said is true.

But people die every day. Young, old, naturally, accidentally. Where are their TV documentaries? Where are their wars?

Now, I should probably say something about caring for the families of the victims, or something like that. But it'd be a lie. I don't care, really. Yes, I know that sounds insensitive. If you are a friend/family member of a victim of September 11th 2001, then you have my sympathies. You are all being used as an excuse for war. That is what George W Bush is doing. In a way, you are being used as an excuse for further terrorism - after all, that is what Bush and his cronies are doing - not the people in the US Army, they are only following orders. War is just fancy terrorism.

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the mans has a very very good point, and im glad to see someone who shares my view on it, i care that they died but i also know that millions die daily, the only thing that made the deaths of those in the towers or the pentagon any different was that it was through an act of terrorism, and you could argue that they died before theree time(though id argue you on this one but thats a whole new topic)

For the record(im straying off topic here but considering the subject matter SRD shouldnt mind)

to a degree america deserved the attacks, i dont mean to say those people deserved to die, i dont mean that at all, but the USA had been bombing Iraq and afgahnistan for the past decade and thought that no one "important" cared, the residents of those countries cared, the innocent civilians killed in the bombing runs cared(oh they killed civilians? the US wouldnt do that surely....sorry but they did, running into 5 figure numbers too for civilian casualty numbers from the bombings) but yet do these Afgans or Iraqi's get tv show after tv show and a day of mourning for their deaths(which in some if not all cases have been equally horrific as the world trade centre/pentagon attacks) no, infact he US media doesnt even acknowledge they have died for the most par, nor do most other countries media.

george bush isnt the one who is gonna start a war. but the real george bush is...... (think about it. once a daddys boy always a daddys boy)

Where are the roll calls for all the Arab dead?

When will the US learn they are not always the best in the world?

When will Bush be assassinated and do everyone a favour?

SRD

PS Not the last one exactly... just that's the only way I can think of that would get him out of the way.

Vietnam
Cambodia
Hiroshima
Nagasaka
Iraq
Kosovo
countless more...

Do you see?

I want to know who agreed to let the USA into the UN security council. They're hungry for war. If they can't find a "reason" to start one, they'll join in where they're not needed.

They always join the side that's winning -

WWI - 1917 America joins the allies, who don't really need them because the war is as good as over by then.

WWII - 1941 America joins the allies, but only when provoked by Japan. Then they "end" it by destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Revenge they say. Est. Deaths: Pearl Harbour - 2, 400 Atomic Bomb attacks - 240,000. Revenge 100 times over. And remember, the Pearl Harbour Victims were Military. Hiroshima and Nagasaki's populations were innocent civilians.

Korea - 1950 America joins BIG South Korea, against LITTLE North Korea.

Vietnam - 1964 America joins BIG South Vietnam against LITTLE North Vietnam (the Viet-Kong). (Do you see a cowardly pattern here?)

The Gulf - 1990 America spends 61.1 BILLION pounds on a less than one year war, and one MONTH of actual fighting. The UN decides to stop, but America want's to carry on, never mind, Jr. can carry on later.

Afganistan - 2001 America (with more than help from the UN and the Northern Allience) Removes the Taliban (and kills an awful lot of people as innocent as the victims of 9/11) Revenge they say. Yeah, they commited act's of terrorism against us, lets do the same to them.

I could say more, but I won't.

They say democracy works, what a joke.

Some of you know my views on communism, all I'll say now is it works (in theory). There's a very good joke in the Simpsons episode where Homer becomes a captain on a nuclear sub. A good joke, but a very good point all the same.

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Korea - 1950 America joins BIG South Korea, against LITTLE North Korea.

Vietnam - 1964 America joins BIG South Vietnam against LITTLE North Vietnam (the Viet-Kong). (Do you see a cowardly pattern here?)

Korea - They still haven't decided who won that one, the talks are still going on.

Vietnam - America got their asses kicked.

HAH!

Bring back Lenin. I know he's dead, but that's beside the point.

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the same person who realised just how much godamn hardware and money the US has, they probably thought, "ahh its only going to be some dumb american we have o deal with we can control them to ur advantage" hmm maybe not

But Hardware shouldn't matter (it does, but it shouldn't) because the UN is a PEACEKEEING force. So it seems a idiotic to have the biggest warmaker in the world on, what is essentialy, a peace council.

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not only that but they claim THEY won the war

But they never admit to losing it.


[quote]i dont see ANY real political view as being able to work, other than say having

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ah but you see,

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not to be funny but they couldnt destroy the world if they tried, as a species we are very arrogant in our assumptions about our destructive powers, yes if they set every nuke on the planet of simultaneously it would cause a terrible amount of damage to the earth but she would recover(given time), the only thing that would be destroyed is us and about 99% of all other animal life, but no we couldnt take out the earth as such it would take an aweful lot to do that(just remember the force most "global killer" meteors strike with and you'll see what i mean)

Yeah, sorry, I did mean that, as opposed to blowing the planet to smithereens, but I didn't make it clear. Sorry Again

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tis ok, im sorry if i came across as having a go, i wasnt...

No it didn't.

youre defending terrorists! There are other ways to defend yourself other than killing thousands of innocent people. If the hijackers crashed those planes into a military base fair enough it would be seen as a tactical attack on the soilders and pilots who have attacked there homelands. Wars should be waged on soldiers and fighters not on the innocent!!