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Milton_Dreams

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15th Jun 2005 at 12:49 pm

I Love The Vegetable Revolution!

 
Hear some Man Utd fans are forming their own club, why thats not going to remove Glazer is it?

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Chris Kamara

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15th Jun 2005 at 12:50 pm

Chris Kamara -

 
no.
but the new club won't be tainted.

Teagirl.

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15th Jun 2005 at 12:54 pm

make a little bird house in your soul

 
Good for them. Actually hope it works.
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Graham

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15th Jun 2005 at 12:55 pm

 
it did with AFC Wimbledon, as long as they get the backing. both support, and financially.
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Captain Spiky

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15th Jun 2005 at 10:55 pm

Captain Spiky - Cockwomble

Cockwomble

 
I admit that I don't really know much about this, but I honestly don't understand why Glazier was so determined to buy the club. Why would you want to own a football club if owning it meant being hated by all the fans and potentially destroying it altogether? When he started getting death threats and saw effigies of himself being hanged, did he not think 'hey, maybe this isn't such a good move after all'?
Now that we're here we may as well go too far.

Albi The Racist Dragon

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15th Jun 2005 at 11:05 pm

 
[quote=Evil_the_Cat_ link=1118839787/0#4 date=1118876145]I admit that I don't really know much about this, but I honestly don't understand why Glazier was so determined to buy the club.
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Milton_Dreams

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16th Jun 2005 at 12:28 pm

I Love The Vegetable Revolution!

 
Quote: SuperMartin_v14_
no.
but the new club won't be tainted.



Thats true I suppose, you'll have to start of at the North Western League so I hear.
Heard Brian Kidd was offered the job of managing the new club.
I suppose you won't get the hangers on and the glory hunters with this new club and you'll all be genuine Man Utd fans

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Bob Flapper

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16th Jun 2005 at 12:35 pm

Bob Flapper - Me?!

Me?!

 

I don't know where i stand with this. On paper this is a good move, but I support Manchester United, no other english club. I hate Glazer but i also hate the thought of abondoning the club i've supported since a kid.

Bob Flapper

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16th Jun 2005 at 3:35 pm

Bob Flapper - Me?!

Me?!

 
Maybe in 10 years

John Cage Bubblegum

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16th Jun 2005 at 4:04 pm

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
Quote: Pablo_the_Big_Angry_Bear_


Coz he knows they'll grow out of it when they start being successful next season?

Record season ticket sales, I heard somewhere this week.

Don't believe the hype. United have on average around 300-500 non-renewals per season, so why would that figure decrease so significantly after a disappointing season? Neither me nor my dad have renewed for next season, as it goes. And not because we haven't won anything, before any comedian comes out with that.

I won't stop supporting United, but I'm f*cked if I'm going to fund Glazer's takeover by giving him
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Teagirl.

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17th Jun 2005 at 9:42 am

make a little bird house in your soul

 
I feel sorry for you United fans. Seriously, i dont know what i would do if it happened to city.
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Milton_Dreams

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17th Jun 2005 at 12:43 pm

I Love The Vegetable Revolution!

 
I wish it would happen to Birmingham City, I really hate them and their fans

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Pope of Chilli Town

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18th Jun 2005 at 3:30 pm

Pope of Chilli Town -

 
Quote: Pablo_the_Big_Angry_Bear_


Coz he knows they'll grow out of it when they start being successful next season?


Quote:
Record season ticket sales, I heard somewhere this week.


B*ll*cks and double b*ll*cks.

Im not explaining again because you obviously have no interest in reading what Ive said on this matter about Glazer.

and the Season ticket sales were record, but uh oh thats because they converted League Match Ticket Books (LMTBs) into ST's. So basically what happend was 2k people sacked off season tickets & LMTBs so united hawked around all the spares (even to me and Ive not been a member for years) then converted a few thousand books to Season Tickets. Memberships are already down by about 10k too.

Emma

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19th Jun 2005 at 9:15 am

Emma - EXTREME!

EXTREME!

 
[quote=Samurai_Hedgehog_ link=1118839787/0#10 date=1118937892]
Don't believe the hype. United have on average around 300-500 non-renewals per season, so why would that figure decrease so significantly after a disappointing season? Neither me nor my dad have renewed for next season, as it goes. And not because we haven't won anything, before any comedian comes out with that.

I won't stop supporting United, but I'm f*cked if I'm going to fund Glazer's takeover by giving him
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

John Cage Bubblegum

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19th Jun 2005 at 10:52 am

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
'I've supported them since I was a little kid but have never gotten to see them'

So you've never been able to get hold of a ticket, for any game? Have you even tried? What about the League Cup? Those games are rarely sold out. No wonder people take the p*ss out of United fans when some of them come out with stuff like that. How dare you lecture me on my stance over Glazer when you never even go.

'season ticket holders take up all the seats'

Well, I am so sorry about that. Christ almighty.

Edited by John Cage Bubblegum Jun 2005
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Pope of Chilli Town

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19th Jun 2005 at 1:54 pm

Pope of Chilli Town -

 
Quote: Lovelyness_


But then it's you who loses out at the end of the day by not getting to see the matches. And of course Man Utd who do need the f*cking money to attempt to get them out of all this debt, of course.

I've supported them since I was a little kid but have never gotten to see them because the season ticket holders take up all the seats. it's really p*ssing me off how so many people are being such d*cks about it. Yes, Glazer's bought the club... but for the moment, it's still got the same manager, and the same players, with the only difference being the owner. It was obvious that the club itself didn't want Glazer to take over but what could they do about it??? Absolutely f*ck all is the answer. He bought the shares... and thats that. Fair enough, it's sh*t that he has, it's f*cked up manchester utd being the richest football club around, but they're still the same club underneath.


The prime idea behind not going going is to force United into more debt, which would force the banks making him sell up at a discount, at which point the "Phoenix Fund" will try and buy the club and enable it to be owned by the fans. Im not supporting the other club because Im a United fan and nothing else, but I WILL NOT put any money into his pockets. If people continue going and he manages to service his debt, he succeeds, and he can justify more price rises, more stupid pre season tours, more merchandising etc destroying the clubs soul even more, and if he goes to change the collective telly deal and for a Euro League, kiss football as you know it goodbye.

Tobias Fünke

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20th Jun 2005 at 3:38 pm

Tobias Fünke  - I blue myself.

I blue myself.

 
FCUM? F'cum more like. Wahey.

But no. So an american buys british foreign policy, nobody's worried. An american buys a british football club? Jaysus, that's shockin!
Analrapist.

John Cage Bubblegum

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20th Jun 2005 at 3:42 pm

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
Quote: Look_Dad_No_Tunes_
FCUM? F'cum more like.

Which is precisely our attitude to ABUs.
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Tobias Fünke

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20th Jun 2005 at 3:50 pm

Tobias Fünke  - I blue myself.

I blue myself.

 
Just a bit of (not even) wordplay, my dear old thing. I'm more an ABV myself.
Analrapist.

John Cage Bubblegum

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20th Jun 2005 at 4:01 pm

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
No, I wasn't saying you were. Just saying that the new acronym was highly appropriate.

I've no soft spot for Villa either, I might add. I don't know why, I shouldn't care about them but they don't half get on my nerves.

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Chris Kamara

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20th Jun 2005 at 6:22 pm

Chris Kamara -

 

Pope of Chilli Town

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20th Jun 2005 at 9:34 pm

Pope of Chilli Town -

 
Quote: Look_Dad_No_Tunes_
Just a bit of (not even) wordplay, my dear old thing. I'm more an ABV myself.
Acohol By Volume?

Tobias Fünke

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21st Jun 2005 at 10:36 am

Tobias Fünke  - I blue myself.

I blue myself.

 
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Acohol By Volume?


We have a winner! Have a Kinder Bueno.
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Tobias Fünke

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21st Jun 2005 at 10:40 am

Tobias Fünke  - I blue myself.

I blue myself.

 
It occured to me that FC United of Manchester is probably what Glazer wants the team to be called, it smells of franchise.
Analrapist.

Pope of Chilli Town

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21st Jun 2005 at 5:59 pm

Pope of Chilli Town -

 
Quote: Look_Dad_No_Tunes_
It occured to me that FC United of Manchester is probably what Glazer wants the team to be called, it smells of franchise.

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Captain Stupendo

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22nd Jun 2005 at 8:33 am

Captain Stupendo - snarf!

snarf!

 
I find the whole thing quite amusing, Man utd are far from being my fave and if it resulted in them having massive debts and being relegated then all you utd fans will realise just how unfair the financial situation is between the premiership and the lower leauges.
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John Cage Bubblegum

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22nd Jun 2005 at 9:27 am

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
Quote: Captain_Stupendo_
I find the whole thing quite amusing, Man utd are far from being my fave and if it resulted in them having massive debts and being relegated then all you utd fans will realise just how unfair the financial situation is between the premiership and the lower leauges.

Oh dear. If I had a pound for everything I heard this garbage...

We know all about the gap between the Premiership and lower leagues. We do not necessarily agree with it, nor is it our fault - perhaps if more people could be arsed going to see their local clubs, then they wouldn't find themselves in the situations some of them have done over the years. Don't be so condescending.

In any case, we have earned our position - we started out in the same fashion as any other club, way back in 1878 as Newton Heath LYR. We worked to get where we are, without any Abramovich-esque sugar daddy, or indeed any high-trousered ginger leprechaun parasite. It amazes me that many people overlook this fact.
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Captain Stupendo

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27th Jun 2005 at 11:03 am

Captain Stupendo - snarf!

snarf!

 
Not your fault! its clubs like yours that spend squllions of pounds ensuring that lesser clubs never get a look in, ah i just hate all the money in football these days it ruins the game.
Never take life seriously.

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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27th Jun 2005 at 11:30 am

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
Manchester United were successful in the 90's because they were one of the first to recognise that football had developed into a business, and, fair play to them, they exploited that, they cultivated Manchester United into a global brand and reaped the rewards. And now, because it's essentially become a business, takeovers can happen. It is an unfortunate, but logical progression from developing Manchester United into a business in the first place, and is a product of those forces which made it a success in the first place. Quite ironic, really.

Pope of Chilli Town

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27th Jun 2005 at 6:25 pm

Pope of Chilli Town -

 
Quote: Captain_Stupendo_
Not your fault! its clubs like yours that spend squllions of pounds ensuring that lesser clubs never get a look in, ah i just hate all the money in football these days it ruins the game.

What a load of f*cking sh*te.

People who support sh*t teams with no money should try drumming up support with their own fans, dont come whining to us because we're the best supported team in the world, yet some p*sspot team from a backwater town doesnt get a look in, thats not our fault and dont try and pin the blame on our "marketing" either, people follow success, but its not a one way street, local sides need to get out and offer youth schemes in local schools.
Ive lost count of the amount of f*cking buckets people have thrust in my face to donate money to a team I dont support, why should I? Why should my club? Surely us spending money on players is more beneficial to sh*t teams that us just sitting on our money and demanding payments for young players we offload?

If money ruins the game, you dont remember the 80's, you dont remember crumbling stands and pure violence at every ground every week, money has improved the game, the class of football played now is amazing and the stadia top class. The only thing that has changed is fans attitudes, gone are the days of Dave at Stockport happy with not getting relegated, now he wants a Brazilian in the side and challenging for the FA cup every year.

and Man United were successful in the 90's due to some great buys on Fergusons part, his team management, and lets not forget the players we brought through in that time. You cant say we used money to fund success because it didnt happen, we had a wage cap at

Chris Kamara

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27th Jun 2005 at 6:54 pm

Chris Kamara -

 
Spot on. Unfortunately rendering what I had got ready to type pointless ;p

John Cage Bubblegum

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27th Jun 2005 at 7:22 pm

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
Quote: Captain_Stupendo_
Not your fault! its clubs like yours that spend squllions of pounds ensuring that lesser clubs never get a look in, ah i just hate all the money in football these days it ruins the game.

You pillock, you've completely misunderstood the whole point. Like I said, United have EARNED their success. Phil is exactly right.
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