rooney

legend?

he's playing fantastic right now... shame its for man utd. but still, he's english! WOOO!!!

he's pushing for it now...

Man utds signed rooneys 13 year old brother whose looking to be even better than wayne.... god i hate man u

over-rated - he's good, but I would have rather had 2x world class midfielders...

You can't say he's a legend after one good performance... I know he will do well, with a good team around him, he will perform better than he ever could do at everton, but we are blessed with plenty of great strikers.

Rooney could have waited - do you really think Newcastle could have afforded him? Not much of a step up for him either, and if he spent another season at Everton, he would have been cheaper (price was artificially inflated after Euro 2004)

Oh, and why do you hate Man U for signing players? - prejudiced git... I've had enough of people who hate Man U whenever they do anything, for no good reason. And where is your source that they have signed him, or did you just make it up

of course he's over-rated!! - every young english kid who can kick a ball is heralded as the best thing ever... it's the way we work.

One good international tournament (against european opposition, no south americans remember), and a hat-trick against a low-level european side does NOT make him the "best young talent the premiership has seen"... he's only played 1 game at 'top club level' - and it wasn't exactly against AC Milan was it? - I remember we bought Karel Poborsky because he had a good european championships, what happened to him?

Rooney's great, don't get me wrong, I rate the guy highly, and he will probably be one of the best in the world - He isn't there yet. He isn't a genius, he isn't a footballing God, he's just a kid with a lot of talent. Was he a goal scoring machine at Everton? - I think not... hardly his fault, but he didn't drag everton up the table by his goals from adverse conditions. He showed flashes of brilliance, but so did Matt LeTissier

Given a choice between Rooney, and 2x world class mids, I'd take the mids... strikers are nothing without a supply line, and we had enough strikers before Rooney arrived.

He will be a star, score sh*t-loads of goals, and help us win a few titles, but he's still over-rated. Once people calm down, they will realise this

ok, so I mis-quoted you - sue me - I'll correct it if you want, my point still stands.

You never said "at Rooneys age" in your original quote, if we are talking about young talent, what about beckham, cr7, Cesc is doing well for himself too - Owen didn't have the same impact?!? - before Euro 2004 Rooney was often referred to as "the new Michael Owen" - Owen was just as big as Rooney is right now.

Everyone is hyped up about Rooney, and that's why he is over-rated. he's young, and he's great, has the potential to go far. Being good when you are 16 doesn't guarantee that you will go on to be the best in the world, there are plenty of young players who looked great when they were young, but burned out... I don't think Rooney will, I just call for a bit of calm, look at it objectively.

Also, Rooney, having an impact in the premiership? - are you having a laugh?!? 17 goals in 3 years - 77 games, across all competitions? (Source) - he got 20 yellow cards in the same timescale... yeah, real impact... Owen had the impact in the premiership.

he only made an 'impact' because he is english, and was hyped to extremes - he was great in the euro's, and he's getting better, he's becoming more prolific, which is good - but he's still over-rated and hyped far too much, which is my original point.

I'm making an important distinction between an impact on the field, and an impact in the press. I will agree he has made a huge impact in the press, but on the premiership field, he hasn't made too much of an impression - He's getting better, and I'm sure this season will be his best ever, not leas because he now has a better team around him.

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legend?

he's playing fantastic right now... shame its for man utd. but still, he's english! WOOO!!!

Is he the tubby ginger one who you said looks like ****?

I know nothing about football. I'll just leave....

Do well to get those for 27 million each, never mind together.

[color=Blue]I Was going to say it was a typical boys thread about football

We also had Jaap Stam and Schmeichel then. Jaap Stam is probably one of my favourite players of all time. Ever since the day Patrick Vieira squared up to Roy Keane over a daft tackle. Stam ran 40 yards to bollock Vieira, and Vieira cowered away like the cocky dangerous lunatic he was back then.

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Oh, and why do you hate Man U for signing players? - prejudiced git... I've had enough of people who hate Man U whenever they do anything, for no good reason. And where is your source that they have signed him, or did you just make it up

my sources are from both the newspapers, tv, teletext and the internet so , and i have every right to hate man utd after all the drummings theyve given leicester and all of the obviously biased decisions that go their way... how many goals have they after 90 minutes hmmm ive lost count but its lots.

I still think that Man U would have been better buying a top class keeper and a top class central defender to play along side Rio Ferdinand. I think Wes Brown and Silvestre make too many mistakes. Against Lyon and Fenerbahce the defence was laughable. I do think the Heinze was a good signing. As for Rooney excellent start, but one swallow does not make a summer.

Just because I'm a Villa supporter, I still like watching and can admire Man U's play in the Champions League, even if I do want them to lose.

I heard Ferguson was interested in Carlo Cudochini ( can't spell his name, you know who I mean the Chelsea keeper).

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Yes, I know. But we also had a great defence. Constant attacks won't win you games. Ask Madrid.

But yeah, 4 quality strikers gave us options. Without just one of the strikers, we wouldn't have won anything. It was some season.

I wouldnt have said it was great defense, it was picked apart by Barcelona, etc that season, the last great defense we had was the Brucey/Pallister partnership.

When we got hammered 4-0 by Barca (Romario running riot) I think, if my memory serves me correct, we had defenders out and Paul Parker played at centre defence. Doesn't help when you're up against a rampant Romario.

I agree Heinze looks good.

Least he could run, Neil Webb couldnt. Neil F*cking Webb what a c*nt. Give me Lee Martin any day 8)

Strange thing I can see Man Utd winning the Champions League and finishing third or fourth in the Premeirship.

Arsenal again this year, chelsea maybe next year... its starting to get harder to see who'll win the leauge now which is good a bit of competition at last.

There's something about Henry that you just can't help but like. He's 'world class' but he's not proved himself like true greats, Pele, Ronaldo, Maradona, etc. His time will come. Maybe. He's the reason I watch MOTD when Man Utd aren't even on it. Him and the rest of the Arsenal side. No harm in watching great football. Rivals or not.

I truly hate Arsenal, not on a personal 'real' level, just in a competitive, light hearted sense. However, even I admit that they are a fantastic team with a great manager and terrific young players. I'd actually prefer the A*se to win it this season rather than Chelsea.

Henry is truly amazing, the way he teased Danny Mills last season afetr Mills had given him grief, hehe. He's also as cool as feck. God, I hate him