Fox Hunting

Under the Christian religion, To kill is a sin, it makes no metion of humans. So, in a Christian country, which is what Britain is, shouldn't fox hunting be illegal.

(To use darrens term) DISCUSS

Fantastic idea! Blindfold some f*cking upperclass tw*t, kick him in the head, put him down a foxhole and unleach the hounds!

Hunting for food is one thing but hunting for fun and sport is another.

If they want to hunt for fun, why not drag hunting (I think that's what it's called) instead? For those who don't what that is it's where the dogs are sent after a bunch of rags which are sprayed with animal scent. They would have the 'thrill of the hunt' and the anti-hunting lot would be happy.

I'm against fox-hunting.

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Hunting for food is one thing but hunting for fun and sport is another.

If they want to hunt for fun, why not drag hunting (I think that's what it's called) instead? For those who don't what that is it's where the dogs are sent after a bunch of rags which are sprayed with animal scent. They would have the 'thrill of the hunt' and the anti-hunting lot would be happy.

I'm against fox-hunting.

I agree with this.
The fun of the game for man is not worth the fear of the fox.
It's inhumane to make a game of it.

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Someone said, I can't remember who, that is is a fact that, in areas where hunts are carried out, there are greater numbers of foxes.

With the hunts, only a few foxes are killed each time. If they use other methods to control the numbe of foxes (ie gas), the whole lot is wiped out.

I'm not really for or against the hunt. But why do animal numbers have to be controlled?

its for protection of farm livestock and such or it was at one point, now its to keep the population of "vermin" down and so a bunch of grown children can play at being great hunters from the days of old, i wouldnt mind it as much if they actually ate the meat of the animal(though id still veiw it as barbaric) but they kill it or severly injure it and then just leave it, any dogs that get hurt get put down instead of treated, besides which because they are reared to have an alomost feral pack psychology they cant be tamed to house pets(as someone already said) so get put down anyway
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We'd complain if the foxes started running around controlling our numbers!

i know this was meant in jest but its not a bad idea, each species has an optimum number for its population, which reflects how much food is in each area and the natural instincts of the animal, how territorial it is etc, as a species we dont follow these since we are "cultured" and "intelligent" and such, but to a degree i think a bit of random cullage wouldnt go amiss in our species, i think we should start with the hunters, chase them with feral wolf packs and such then we should move on to the majority of our worlds leaders(be it political or otherwise)

hmmm sorry i lost it there for a second

awww noone wants to arue with me about culling *BAWL*

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That's just about the only way to do it. china has very few natural resources, and the ones it has aren't enough to support almost a 5th of the worlds population. that country is so overcrowded it's unbelieveable. which is better, have a policy of only one child per family, or have the population increase drastically, bringing the whole country down

hmmmmmm it is true that it is an option. why is china overcrowded? surely the country would be better off educating these ppl about birthcontrol and helping provide basic healthcare in rural areas and if you have been to china you will have noticed the huge gap between rich and poor where the majority of the ppl live in medievial conditions in cities there is a good chance there child will die anyway due to no sanitation poor nutrition the very conditions that encouraged large families in this country if china has an aging all male populaltion this too wil bring them down especially in a culture where ancestor worship has lead to reverance for the old meaning the young care for the old as part of the family unit if they are fewer young more money will be needed to care for these ppl it mightnt sound serious but it is quite possible that a aging chinese population among the poorer classes could do more damage than overcrowding which although is serious is usually dealth with by nature (as more children are born weakness becomes more apparent as with all animals new diseases and condititons develop to keep numbers down anyway i wont go into this though sorry) young poor working ppl as well as being a burden on the chinese economy are the very fuel of that economy an all male generation (almost) would lessen overcrowding within a decade but bloody hell the effects would be more far reaching than the government realises ~if england was so overcrowded could you suffocate a child of your own if a multiple birth occured? if you could not you could face a fine large enough that your child cannot eat if you cannot pay? prison~if prison your family is split up you are probably banished from your village on return assuming rural peasant life

its important to remeber that these overcrowded figures in statistiacl form are in human form PEOPLE im not saying that you are wrong infact you are right and it is possibly too late for a education program that is effective enough the best hope for china? mass national disaster war famine or disease. but across the population as a whole not just among the poorest ppl this of course is unlikely. it is culling though . whether its best i wouldnt like to say

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[quote]if england was so overcrowded could you suffocate a child of your own if a multiple birth occured? if you could not you could face a fine large enough that your child cannot eat if you cannot pay? prison~if prison your family is split up you are probably banished from your village on return assuming rural peasant life

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they will build in immunity to diseases

is this a wise thing though? if we are born with an immunity to most disease our immune systems will be required to function in a lesser way to what they have previously done, to me this would make us more suseptible to mutations of various diseases in the long run(and the mutations will come about, if not naturally then through our own meddling)

yes i agree but you missed what i was saying, if we are born immune to all illness then the immune system wont need to learn how to deal with a new illness, now if we can stop sickness through being born immune to any virus' etc that are about eventually through a process of evolution the immune system will gradually become weak in its abilities to learn how to deal with new virus' thus if a new type of virus broke out we'd be f*cked, though im getting into the realms of the scariest sci-fi stories right now so...

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yes i agree but you missed what i was saying, if we are born immune to all KNOWN illness then the immune system wont need to learn how to deal with a new illness, now if we can stop sickness through being born immune to any virus' etc that are about eventually through a process of evolution the immune system will gradually become weak in its abilities to learn how to deal with new virus' thus if a new type of virus broke out we'd be fecked, though im getting into the realms of the scariest sci-fi stories right now so...

Evolution works on the principles that if something makes you better, it is passed on. however, it doesnt 'forget' things it doesnt need. look at the appendix, it's not used in our bodies, yet it stays there, if it doesnt harm us, it stays. Likewise the immune system cannot 'forget' how to deal with new viruses, since it is not doing any harm. plus, virii are muting all the time, theres a new strain of flu every year, it would be impossible to make a cure for every individual type, therefore, there would be some kind of 'base' that all the virii of a particular strain are based on, which the immune system can create it's own defence.

You don't replace the function of anything, you augment it. that's why it's good.