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Colin

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5th May 2008 at 1:17 pm

Colin -

 
I instantly thought of this poem:
http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/poetry/benjamin-zephaniah-2.html
...which is awful.

I can't think of anything else right now but I'll think for a while...
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Elusive Moose

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5th May 2008 at 4:45 pm

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Do you just want English ones or any dialect? Their Eyes Were Watching God (Zora Neale Hurston) is a good example of African-American dialects (and also incorporates folktale-like language so you get a mix of the colloquial way they spoke with the more vivid/beautiful/'literary'-sounding language. Could link with Agard also??

I'm sure Tess of the D'Urbervilles has examples of farmer-style/commoner dialect in but I may well just be imagining that...

Would Catcher in the Rye work? Although it's more individual voice than a whole dialect, but Holden definitly narrates in quite a distinctive way (as does Bridget Jones, but again, not really dialect, more an individual group of people's way of talking? Though you do get a pretty good comparison of their voices- eg Shazza and her effing and blinding, singleton, v.g, etc, compared to the more 'posh', educated voices of the lawyer/Oxbridge world, if you went in that direction.)

How about plays? Stuff like Willy Russell- Our Day Out for example? Can't think of any others offhand but there are probably quite a few examples of plays that are written in 'naturalistic'/dialect speech (oh, yeah, like Dinner by Moira Buffini, which has a northerner speaking in a 'common' dialect againt all these really posh people who think they're better than him but who are actually the ones who look like tw*ts... Very very weird play that...)

Not sure whether I'm really on track with the last lot, but hope something helps!
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Elusive Moose

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5th May 2008 at 5:35 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

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Oooh that poem in the GCSE anthology written in a Glaswegian accent... Slagging off newsreader's accents and going on about how people were talking crap by saying that BBC English is correct (eg. some famous poet- Keats or Wordsworth- rhymed 'matter' and 'water' because of their accent, etc).

Edit- found it- Six O'Clock News by Tom Leonard. But apparently it was a different one that went on about the matter/water rhyme...

Infact, all of the anthology was about different cultures so there was quite a bit about dialect/the acceptance or non-acceptance of them in it. Must've been one dating from 2003-2006 if you want to google it? AQA. Or I could send one of you mine when I'm home if you wanted to pursue that- (I ended up with two copies of it- the plus side of having an English teacher aunt and never throwing anything out)
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Elusive Moose

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6th May 2008 at 8:52 am

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

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Quote: Lemony_Zester
Quote: illusiveshadow
Oooh that poem in the GCSE anthology written in a Glaswegian accent... Slagging off newsreader's accents and going on about how people were talking crap by saying that BBC English is correct (eg. some famous poet- Keats or Wordsworth- rhymed 'matter' and 'water' because of their accent, etc).

Edit- found it- Six O'Clock News by Tom Leonard. But apparently it was a different one that went on about the matter/water rhyme...

Infact, all of the anthology was about different cultures so there was quite a bit about dialect/the acceptance or non-acceptance of them in it. Must've been one dating from 2003-2006 if you want to google it? AQA. Or I could send one of you mine when I'm home if you wanted to pursue that- (I ended up with two copies of it- the plus side of having an English teacher aunt and never throwing anything out)

Unrelated Incidents...

This is thi sixaclok nuis.
An the man sed an the reason i tok wia BBC accent
is cos yu wouldnae wanna sound like wonnayuscruffs.

Something like that. Called Unrelated Incidents in our anthology.

Also, try https://mailman.rice.edu/pipermail/sasialit/2000-August/003418.html


Oops, sorry- for some reason I read yours as short story in the anthology not poem. Belt oop, Amy, belt oop.

Oh yeah, Ben Elton's another one who does dialects, etc, but he's almost always taking the p*ss out of everything so they're pretty satirical.

Wow, that version of Search... is so different to the anthology one?!
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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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6th May 2008 at 8:03 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

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Quote: the_doc
For Scots, Sir Walter Scott and Robert Burns are the glaringly obvious ones. The archetypal example of something written in dialect is Huckleberry Finn, which was actually written as a satire on the dialects of the deep South in the States. I think Toni Morrison does that kind of thing as well (in an African-American dialect, although it definitely isn't satirical in her case). I'm sure there's loads, loads more, I'll have a think and get back to you on it tomorrow if I can.


Although the kind of Scots you'd find in Trainspotting is somewhat different from the Scots of Burns or Scott. Irvine Welsh is good for a few Scots dialects, actually; his short story "Kingdom of Fife", in the collection "If You Liked School, You'll Love Work" is good for, astonishingly, the Fife dialect.

Elusive Moose

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7th May 2008 at 10:59 am

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

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Yeah I should do, 3 if you include my sister's. But yeah, won't be back at home for a while yet anyway so just let me know whenever
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TinyShine

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7th May 2008 at 7:48 pm

TinyShine -

 
You could try 'The Colour Purple' by Alice Walker, which is in an African American dialect throughout the book, as chapters tend to be letters or diary entries.

Sarah xx

Elusive Moose

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7th May 2008 at 10:54 pm

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While it is a good example of dialect OH MY GOD I HATE THAT BOOK. With the exception of Shug's (I think) views on God and religion, I cannot stand the thing...
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TinyShine

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8th May 2008 at 9:36 am

TinyShine -

 
I don't like it either but just providing an example !

Sarah xx

Elusive Moose

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8th May 2008 at 1:51 pm

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I wonder if there is anybody out there who does... I don't think I've ever met anyone who thinks it's any good at all!!
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Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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9th May 2008 at 8:57 am

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

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Quote: illusiveshadow
I wonder if there is anybody out there who does... I don't think I've ever met anyone who thinks it's any good at all!!


I know someone who did it for Higher English because they enjoyed it. Couldn't really get into it myself, though. Catch-22 for the win.


 
 
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