12th Mar 2010 at 11:05 am
I aim to misbehave
12th Mar 2010 at 11:17 am
I aim to misbehave
12th Mar 2010 at 11:21 am
Thats the worst of it, he made me feel like a prick for daring to have the audacity to ask for the time off. Boo Hoo, your business is struggling. That doesn't give you the right to treat me like sh*t and guilt-trip me into doing more overtime
12th Mar 2010 at 11:27 am
I aim to misbehave
Quote: Tig Trager, Mar 2010Thats the worst of it, he made me feel like a prick for daring to have the audacity to ask for the time off. Boo Hoo, your business is struggling. That doesn't give you the right to treat me like sh*t and guilt-trip me into doing more overtime
Hmmm you set the precedent by working unpaid overtime so they've accepted that you'll do it. I don't know what the legal deal is in Ireland, but I'd get onto some sort of advisory group (like CAB over here) and ask a few question.
It is common though that business' are using the recession to guilt trip people into doing more work for less under the guise of being lucky to have a job.
12th Mar 2010 at 11:29 am
12th Mar 2010 at 11:35 am
Quote: Ted 'Smooth' Bundy, Mar 2010Quote: Tig Trager, Mar 2010Thats the worst of it, he made me feel like a prick for daring to have the audacity to ask for the time off. Boo Hoo, your business is struggling. That doesn't give you the right to treat me like sh*t and guilt-trip me into doing more overtime
Hmmm you set the precedent by working unpaid overtime so they've accepted that you'll do it. I don't know what the legal deal is in Ireland, but I'd get onto some sort of advisory group (like CAB over here) and ask a few question.
It is common though that business' are using the recession to guilt trip people into doing more work for less under the guise of being lucky to have a job.
I know. But thats the thing, a few hours here and there, fine. If it has to be done it has to be done. But 3 days worth of overtime and to be treated with no respect when I ask for 2 of those days off is bullsh*t to me.
Thing is, what help would the CAB give? Force my bosses to give me the time off, or pay me? Thats the problem, there's only 4 people in this place, 2 of which own the place. Me running to the CAB and challenging them in a way means my likelyhood of keeping the job (or more importantly, getting a good reference) decrease, while tensions here increase. I just want to be treated with some f*cking respect.
They can kiss my a*s if they expect me to keep doing overtime. Unless time off for the overtime is arranged in advance, f*ck 'em
12th Mar 2010 at 3:10 pm
Then he started on at me about how we all have to pull together, we need to do all this overtime to keep the business afloat, the business is struggling, he doesn't calculate how much overtime he puts in etc.
12th Mar 2010 at 3:23 pm
12th Mar 2010 at 3:35 pm
I aim to misbehave
To offer something a little more constructive than the above, why don't you suggest that you draw up a sheet so you can keep track of it? Every time you work over, write down the date, how many minutes/hours you worked and what you were working on, and then get him to sign it every time you do it. That way there's a proper record, signed by him, and he can't be a sh*t and question your timekeeping.
Doesn't sound like the kinda guy that'd go for it, but that's the way we do it and it works out fine. I'm owed twenty odd hours at the minute but it's all there in black and white and I can take the time back whenever I want
12th Mar 2010 at 3:39 pm
Quote: the doc, Mar 2010To offer something a little more constructive than the above, why don't you suggest that you draw up a sheet so you can keep track of it? Every time you work over, write down the date, how many minutes/hours you worked and what you were working on, and then get him to sign it every time you do it. That way there's a proper record, signed by him, and he can't be a sh*t and question your timekeeping.
Doesn't sound like the kinda guy that'd go for it, but that's the way we do it and it works out fine. I'm owed twenty odd hours at the minute but it's all there in black and white and I can take the time back whenever I want
Oh he's not disputing how many hours I've done. He knows that I put in a serious amount of hours on it and I told him I wasn't being exact with my timekeeping, just noting it if I stayed back more than half an hour. He just doesn't want to give me all the time back and, in his own words, was taken aback when I mentioned it.
12th Mar 2010 at 3:44 pm
I aim to misbehave
Quote: Tig Trager, Mar 2010Quote: the doc, Mar 2010To offer something a little more constructive than the above, why don't you suggest that you draw up a sheet so you can keep track of it? Every time you work over, write down the date, how many minutes/hours you worked and what you were working on, and then get him to sign it every time you do it. That way there's a proper record, signed by him, and he can't be a sh*t and question your timekeeping.
Doesn't sound like the kinda guy that'd go for it, but that's the way we do it and it works out fine. I'm owed twenty odd hours at the minute but it's all there in black and white and I can take the time back whenever I want
Oh he's not disputing how many hours I've done. He knows that I put in a serious amount of hours on it and I told him I wasn't being exact with my timekeeping, just noting it if I stayed back more than half an hour. He just doesn't want to give me all the time back and, in his own words, was taken aback when I mentioned it.
In which case, tell him to get right f*cked cos it really does add up and at the end of the day, why should you do it if the only end result is his pockets getting lined and you being p*ssed off about it? Take a hard line on this one, Baz, that's my advice anyway.
12th Mar 2010 at 3:49 pm
Quote: the doc, Mar 2010Quote: Tig Trager, Mar 2010Quote: the doc, Mar 2010To offer something a little more constructive than the above, why don't you suggest that you draw up a sheet so you can keep track of it? Every time you work over, write down the date, how many minutes/hours you worked and what you were working on, and then get him to sign it every time you do it. That way there's a proper record, signed by him, and he can't be a sh*t and question your timekeeping.
Doesn't sound like the kinda guy that'd go for it, but that's the way we do it and it works out fine. I'm owed twenty odd hours at the minute but it's all there in black and white and I can take the time back whenever I want
Oh he's not disputing how many hours I've done. He knows that I put in a serious amount of hours on it and I told him I wasn't being exact with my timekeeping, just noting it if I stayed back more than half an hour. He just doesn't want to give me all the time back and, in his own words, was taken aback when I mentioned it.
In which case, tell him to get right f*cked cos it really does add up and at the end of the day, why should you do it if the only end result is his pockets getting lined and you being p*ssed off about it? Take a hard line on this one, Baz, that's my advice anyway.
I'm going to take the middle ground I think. I'm just not going to do any overtime unless I'm specifically asked, and I'll arrange to take those hours off within a week. As the bosses, if they can't arrange that, then what the f*ck hope does the business have anyway?
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