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Milton_Dreams

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26th May 2005 at 2:16 pm

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Who should Englands final representative be if UEFA don't allow Liverpool to defend the Champions League?

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26th May 2005 at 2:25 pm

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well, if Uefa dont allow Liverpool to defend the title then it'll be Everton in the Champions league, but I know what you mean. You mean should Uefa let Liverpool in. I personally dont think so. This happened before a good few years ago, I cant remember to who, but they paid Real Zaragoza to let them take their place. That wont happen now though, as the Champions League is worth a lot more money now, and Liverpool aint exactly Chelsea, even with the cash prize for winning the Champions League. So I think we'll see Everton there next year
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26th May 2005 at 3:32 pm

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I still think its bloody stupid that the team that finishes 4th gets the chance to compete in the first place.
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Captain Mal Reynolds

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26th May 2005 at 3:34 pm

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they need 32 teams to make up enough group stages. No point having only the top 3 teams from england go through and the top 5 from Spain
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Chris Kamara

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26th May 2005 at 4:39 pm

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I don't see why this is even a debate. The rules were submitted at the start of the season. If Liverpool were intent on being in next years champions league, they shouldn't have played f*cking diabolical most of the season and finished 5th. Everton beat them to 4th place fair and square.

And I agree with Joel
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I still think its bloody stupid that the team that finishes 4th gets the chance to compete in the first place.

damn right it is.

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26th May 2005 at 8:31 pm

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champions should be allowed to defenc their title. but you cant change the rules for everton sat the end of the season.

the only way around it i think is if liverpool have to play a random team in a kind of qualifier to take their place.
nbot fair n 'oyther team though.

Milton_Dreams

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27th May 2005 at 4:58 pm

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Quote: Pablo_the_Uninspired_
I still think its bloody stupid that the team that finishes 4th gets the chance to compete in the first place.



Agree with you there, I think first and second places is enough.

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Milton_Dreams

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27th May 2005 at 4:59 pm

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Quote: martin_
I don't see why this is even a debate. The rules were submitted at the start of the season. If Liverpool were intent on being in next years champions league, they shouldn't have played f*cking diabolical most of the season and finished 5th. Everton beat them to 4th place fair and square.

And I agree with Joel
damn right it is.



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Milton_Dreams

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27th May 2005 at 5:00 pm

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Don't Liverpool take part in the World Club Championship as well?

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John Cage Bubblegum

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27th May 2005 at 5:17 pm

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Quote: Pablo_the_Uninspired_
I still think its bloody stupid that the team that finishes 4th gets the chance to compete in the first place.

Agreed. I'd switch it back to winners only myself. But then, that won't happen because of the impact it'd have on TV revenue.

As for the bin dippers, they finished 5th (37 points behind Chelsea) and as such, they do not deserve to be in the competition next year. There's no way Everton should make way for them, either.


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Albi The Racist Dragon

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27th May 2005 at 5:39 pm

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Quote: Milton_Dreams_
Don't Liverpool take part in the World Club Championship as well?


I think so, I'm not entirely sure whats happening with that as they seem to just make up the rules down the pub. It's in Japan sometime this year.

Not to be confused with the World Club Cup, which is a one-off game between them and the South American champions, in Tokyo, early next year.
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Milton_Dreams

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28th May 2005 at 11:05 am

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To be fair it's harder to knock out Juventus, Chelsea, Milan, Leverkusen, Olypiakos, etc and win the Champions League than it is to finish 4th in the Premeirship beating the likes of Blackburn, Southampton, Charlton, Villa , West Brom, etc. I think the FA were trying to pull a quick one by giving Everton the final place, hoping that if Liverpool won the Champions League, they could con an extra Champions League place out of UEFA.

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Chris Kamara

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28th May 2005 at 11:14 am

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I think they just plain didn't expect Liverpool to win and thought all the talk about it was going to turn out to be over nothing. Even when they got to the final, it was still favourable for Milan to win it. To an extent, I agree with this:
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I think the FA were trying to pull a quick one by giving Everton the final place, hoping that if Liverpool won the Champions League, they could con an extra Champions League place out of UEFA.

Milton_Dreams

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28th May 2005 at 1:34 pm

Milton_Dreams - I Love The Vegetable Revolution!

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Man Utd fans I know are gutted Liverpool won the Champions League and I have enjoyed winding them up about it.

Why did you get rid of Cantona, looked a cool sig.

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John Cage Bubblegum

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28th May 2005 at 1:42 pm

John Cage Bubblegum -

 
Quote: Milton_Dreams_
To be fair it's harder to knock out Juventus, Chelsea, Milan, Leverkusen, Olypiakos, etc and win the Champions League than it is to finish 4th in the Premeirship beating the likes of Blackburn, Southampton, Charlton, Villa , West Brom, etc. I think the FA were trying to pull a quick one by giving Everton the final place, hoping that if Liverpool won the Champions League, they could con an extra Champions League place out of UEFA.

Well, if it's so easy to beat Premiership sides, how come Liverpool didn't? The rules are simple, and Liverpool failed to qualify from a weak Premiership. Fair play to them for winning it, but they simply weren't good enough in the league this year. Everton finished 4th, fair and square. It's a bit of a joke the 4th placed team qualifies, but still.

And I honestly don't think the FA could have foreseen a Liverpool win in the Champions League. That lot can barely tie their own shoelaces.
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